Professor Richard De Veaux was interviewed on the public radio WAMC Speakers Corner by Alan Chartock. What Chartock called the data mining crisis De Veaux called the long-term data mining evolution. Can one use the vast amount of available data to figure out whatever you want to know about someone? De Veaux talked about the National Security Agency (NSA) and earlier refusing to take Defense Department Funding. What is the right balance between national security and privacy? Can we rely on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) to prevent abuses? Is Snowden a criminal or a hero?